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		<title>Untangling DNA</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 14:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[About a year or so ago and all in the interests of genealogy, I had a Y-DNA (follows the male line) test done. At the time there were only a couple of matches to mine and they were already known to me through more conventional records. After a few months, as more people had tests [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About a year or so ago and all in the interests of genealogy, I had a Y-DNA (follows the male line) test done. At the time there were only a couple of matches to mine and they were already known to me through more conventional records.</p>
<p>After a few months, as more people had tests done, the number of links grew a bit; again most of them were from people I knew and  shared the same or very similar surname (CURD, CURDS, CURDE etc) however, there were a couple (and now even more) who had other surnames! Perhaps even more surprisingly these were very close DNA matches differing in only 1 or 2 markers which makes it almost certain we share common ancestors. The fact that all these connected persons live in the USA made the match even more interesting. The surname with the most and best matches is ROSE which is obviously not one derived from CURD or one which could be easily mistaken for it.</p>
<p>I had previously contacted one or two of the ROSE relatives, but none could shed light on a possible connection &#8211; I assumed one of my ancestors must have &#8220;strayed&#8221; and, as there are many CURDs in the USA, I assumed the straying took place over there and left it at that; interesting diversion but one that seemed almost impossible to fully explain.</p>
<p>Today, I received an email from a W. ROSE in the USA:</p>
<blockquote><p>Brian,  I understand that you are working on the Curd family<br />
genealogy so you are probably aware of the fact that DNA of<br />
a group of descendants of Robert ROSE &amp; Dorothy match with<br />
your Curd family descendants.  This Robert came to New England<br />
in the 1630s and probably came from England, possibly Kent.<br />
I&#8217;m forwarding the attached Article of the early Long Island, NY<br />
settlers as Robert was the ROSE who was one of the first nine<br />
settlers of Easthampton on Long Island in the 1640s having come<br />
down from Lynn, MA.  This article states that six of the nine early<br />
settlers came from Kent but we&#8217;re NOT certain at this time which<br />
of these six are known to be from Kent.  It is possible that one is<br />
our Robert ROSE whose wife was named Dorothy.<br />
Based on there being Curd descendants who match our ROSEs,<br />
there seems to be a connection between the two families and it<br />
possibly began in the Kent area of England prior to the 1630 time<br />
period.  We know that there were ROSEs living in that area so it<br />
is possible that is where Robert came from and where the two<br />
families connected. <br />
Thanks for your attention to this article and the possible connection<br />
with our ROSE group.</p></blockquote>
<p>Assuming this info is correct, it means that the &#8220;straying&#8221; appears to have taken place back here in Kent before 1630 and that my Hertfordshire CURD branch must be connected with KENT branch and also that the common CURD ancestor and therefore MY family were not from Hertfordshire after all!<br />
Having been stuck in 1750 with one John CURD in Hertfordshire, this has rekindled my interest in the family&#8217;s history although finding records dating back so far won&#8217;t be easy!</p>
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		<title>faceblok&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A while ago somebody suggested I join facebook (fb) as a way of contacting other people interested in the genealogy of the Curd family. Well I joined and have given it a try and, after a few weeks of nothing much more than the inane chatter I would normally hear from somebody on a mobile [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A while ago somebody suggested I join facebook (fb) as a way of contacting other people interested in the genealogy of the Curd family.<br />
Well I joined and have given it a try and, after a few weeks of nothing much more than the inane chatter I would normally hear from somebody on a mobile phone, I have decided to de-activate my account. Not as easy as you might think though; a careful read of the terms and conditions on the site and I find that I can&#8217;t fully close things, just put them into a kind of suspend animation!<br />
I have done my best by removing all fb profiles, links, photos, posts, applications, friends and notifications but I&#8217;ve no doubt missed something!<br />
I&#8217;m hoping that I shouldn&#8217;t see any more activity as I am fortunate in being able to set up and destroy email addresses as required. fb only has one of these temporary addresses for me now and even that will go in the next hour or so.<br />
Bye-bye fb&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Personal Spam?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 14:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Votes please; should I respond or not? This mail arrived this morning and is the first personalised one of its type I have seen: YANG LIM &#38; ASSOCIATES SOLICITOR AND ADVOCATES NO. 101, JALAN PUDU RAYA, TAMAN DESA RAYA MALAYSIA TEL: +60122473440 Email: barryanglim@XXXXXX.XXX I am Yang Lim, an attorney at law. A deceased client [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Votes please; should I respond or not?</p>
<p>This mail arrived this morning and is the first personalised one of its type I have seen:</p>
<blockquote><p>
YANG LIM &amp; ASSOCIATES<br />
SOLICITOR AND ADVOCATES<br />
NO. 101,  JALAN PUDU RAYA,<br />
TAMAN DESA RAYA<br />
MALAYSIA<br />
TEL: +60122473440<br />
Email: barryanglim@XXXXXX.XXX<br />
I am Yang Lim, an attorney at law. A deceased client of  mine, Mr. Andrew  Curd, that shares the same last name as yours, died as the  result of a heart-related condition on March 12th 2005. His  heart condition was due to the death of all the members of his  family in the tsunami disaster on the 26th December 2004 in  Sumatra Indonesia.<br />
I  can be reached on barryanglim@XXXXXX.XXX for more information.My late Client has a deposit of  Nineteen Million Dollars (US$19 Million Dollars) left behind.<br />
Best regards,<br />
Yang Lim<br />
Attorney at  Law</p></blockquote>
<p>Perhaps I&#8217;ll be rich in 2009 after all! Somehow I suspect not&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>CURD Family get together 2</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We now have a date for the family get together: Sarratt Local History Society are planning an Open Day and Curd Family get together in the village of Sarratt on Saturday July 19th. There will be a display devoted to the story of the family of John Curd who married Susannah Pymley in the village [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We now have a date for the family get together:</p>
<p><strong>Sarratt Local History Society</strong> are planning an <strong>Open Day and Curd Family get together</strong> in the village of <strong>Sarratt </strong>on <strong>Saturday July 19th</strong>.</p>
<p>There will be a display devoted to the story of the family of John Curd who married Susannah Pymley in the village church 8th August 1767.</p>
<p>Anyone with an interest in, or connections with, the Curd family is invited to contact John Hopkins for further details at john @ curdfamily.com (<em>there are a couple of obvious spaces in that address, so don&#8217;t just copy and paste it</em>).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll certainly be going and am looking forward to meeting a few of my &#8220;email family&#8221;..</p>
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		<title>Family Forum back up and running</title>
		<link>http://www.briancurd.com/archives/282</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 11:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[After months of spam abuse I had to take down the Curd family forum . Seems phpBB is just too open to abuse and requires constant tweaking and attention  to keep running. I have now switched to another system and am hoping it won&#8217;t be such an &#8220;open target&#8221;, we&#8217;ll see.. Check it out at [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After months of spam abuse I had to take down the Curd family forum . Seems phpBB is just too open to abuse and requires constant tweaking and attention  to keep running.</p>
<p>I have now switched to another system and am hoping it won&#8217;t be such an &#8220;open target&#8221;, we&#8217;ll see..</p>
<p>Check it out at <a href="http://www.curdfamily.com/bbs" target="_blank">www.curdfamily.com/bbs</a>.</p>
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		<title>CURD Family get together</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 01:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are plans underway to organise a CURD family get together for those interested tracing the family history. This applies particularly to people, like me, who can trace their ancestry back to John CURD and Susannah PYMLEY in Hertfordshire UK. It&#8217;s hoped to hold the event in September 2008 in Sarratt Herts &#8211; stay tuned [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are plans underway to organise a CURD family get together for those interested tracing the family history.</p>
<p>This applies particularly to people, like me, who can trace their ancestry back to John CURD and Susannah PYMLEY in Hertfordshire UK.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hoped to hold the event in September 2008 in Sarratt Herts &#8211; stay tuned for more info as I get it&#8230;</p>
<p>You may also like to visit my other website, <a href="http://www.curdfamily.com" title="Curd Family site" target="_blank">curdfamily.com</a>. Unfortunately I&#8217;ve had to temporarily shutdown the forum which was there (due to constant spamming) but I hope to reinstate it very soon.</p>
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		<title>Free Family Tree Software</title>
		<link>http://www.briancurd.com/archives/276</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 11:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This time of year always seems to encourage a sudden burst in genealogy activity &#8211; I have made three solid new contacts for my tree in the last couple of weeks and am looking forward to making a few steps further back on the CURD line and a completely new start on the GRANT tree [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This time of year always seems to encourage a sudden burst in genealogy activity &#8211; I have made three solid new contacts for my tree in the last couple of weeks and am looking forward to making a few steps further back on the CURD line and a completely new start on the GRANT tree on Sue&#8217;s side.</p>
<p>For anybody just starting out, the standard advice about talking to living relatives still applies but you may also find it useful to start building your tree using your PC. Interesting to see that the highly regarded &#8220;Family Tree Legends 5&#8243; software is now available as a free download <a href="http://www.familytreelegends.com/" title="Family Tree Legends link" target="_blank">here</a>. FTL has a feature lacking from many other solutions &#8211; it also allows proper storage of DNA info for individuals whereas most of the other packages insist on using the notes field.</p>
<p>FTL will of course allow import from and export to the standard GEDCOM files but interestingly it also imports directly from Family Tree Maker data.</p>
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		<title>My Curd DNA Test</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 12:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I now have the results from my DNA test. It turns out I am part of Haplogroup R1b1 (which means little to me yet!) but here is the description from Wikipedi which doesn&#8217;t tell me a lot except that I seem to be in the most common male group in Europe. Markers 1-12 Locus 1 [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I now have the results from my DNA test. It turns out I am part of Haplogroup R1b1 (which means little to me yet!) but <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R1b_%28Y-DNA%29" target="_blank">here is the description from Wikipedi</a> which doesn&#8217;t tell me a lot except that I seem to be in the most common male group in Europe.</p>
<table align="center" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%">
<tr>
<th colspan="13"><strong>Markers 1-12</strong></th>
</tr>
<tr>
<th><strong>Locus</strong></th>
<td>1</td>
<td>2</td>
<td>3</td>
<td>4</td>
<td>5</td>
<td>6</td>
<td>7</td>
<td>8</td>
<td>9</td>
<td>10</td>
<td>11</td>
<td>12</td>
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<th><strong>DYS#</strong></th>
<td>393</td>
<td>390</td>
<td>19<strong>*</strong></td>
<td>391</td>
<td>385a</td>
<td>385b</td>
<td>426</td>
<td>388</td>
<td>439</td>
<td>389-1</td>
<td>392</td>
<td>389-2</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th><strong>Alleles</strong></th>
<td>13</td>
<td>23</td>
<td>14</td>
<td>11</td>
<td>11</td>
<td>14</td>
<td>12</td>
<td>12</td>
<td>12</td>
<td>14</td>
<td>14</td>
<td>30</td>
</tr>
</table>
<table align="center" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%">
<tr>
<th colspan="14"><strong>Markers 13-25</strong></th>
</tr>
<tr>
<th><strong>Locus</strong></th>
<td>13</td>
<td>14</td>
<td>15</td>
<td>16</td>
<td>17</td>
<td>18</td>
<td>19</td>
<td>20</td>
<td>21</td>
<td>22</td>
<td>23</td>
<td>24</td>
<td>25</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th><strong>DYS#</strong></th>
<td>458</td>
<td>459a</td>
<td>459b</td>
<td>455</td>
<td>454</td>
<td>447</td>
<td>437</td>
<td>448</td>
<td>449</td>
<td>464a<strong>**</strong></td>
<td>464b<strong>** </strong></td>
<td>464c<strong>** </strong></td>
<td>464d<strong>** </strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th><strong>Alleles</strong></th>
<td>17</td>
<td>9</td>
<td>10</td>
<td>11</td>
<td>11</td>
<td>25</td>
<td>15</td>
<td>18</td>
<td>31</td>
<td>15</td>
<td>15</td>
<td>16</td>
<td>17</td>
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<p><strong>*</strong>Also known as DYS 394</p>
<p><strong>**</strong>On 5/19/2003, these values were adjusted<br />
down by 1 point because of a change in Lab nomenclature.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a lot to understand in this branch of Genealogy and it&#8217;s going to take me a while to get to grips with it all. The good news is that it&#8217;s already thrown up a high likelihood of a connection between my Hertfordshire Curds and the Sussex/Kent branch &#8211; this may be difficult to document though as the link is only really likely after about 25 or so generations!</p>
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		<title>Random Acts</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 10:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dick Eastman is reporting an interesting genealogy development in Nova Scotia: Mysterious Messages Appear in Nova Scotia Cemeteries I wonder if it&#8217;ll catch on?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dick Eastman is reporting an interesting genealogy development in Nova Scotia:</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2007/07/mysterious-mess.html">Mysterious Messages Appear in Nova Scotia Cemeteries</a></p>
<p>I wonder if it&#8217;ll catch on?</p>
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		<title>Family Tree Maker</title>
		<link>http://www.briancurd.com/archives/240</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Family Tree Maker website is offering a free download of the beta 2008 software. It&#8217;s a biggie at 170Mb, so don&#8217;t bother if you don&#8217;t have a decent connection. I took a look at it this afternoon and looks to be a big improvement over the older version I have. The main difference seems [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <a href="http://beta.familytreemaker.com/" target="_blank">Family Tree Maker website</a> is offering a free download of the beta 2008 software. It&#8217;s a biggie at 170Mb, so don&#8217;t bother if you don&#8217;t have a decent connection.</p>
<p>I took a look at it this afternoon and looks to be a big improvement over the older version I have. The main difference seems to be the way things are organised on screen and those with 14 or 15 inch monitors may find the new arrangement a little restrictive. So far 1600&#215;1200 resolution seems to be about right, any less and I think I would have had trouble.</p>
<p>Having thrown a copy of my tree at it and had a good bash at breaking the software I am generally very impressed.  In fact, so far my only real disappointments are:</p>
<ol>
<li>Still no export to html &#8211; this is a major omission IMO. Yes I know I can publish my data to the ancestry pages but I would have liked the option to be able to make my own site pages. <font color="#800000"><em>Update: I found there are some facilities, rather well hidden though. It seems it is possible to export reports and media to html. Mmm&#8230; OK but not really good enough.</em></font></li>
<li>The link to the <a href="http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-1864645-10391802" target="_blank">Ancestry</a> website is contained within the application and I can find no option to open using a browser. This repeats the same problem as the previous version, ie. it&#8217;s clumsy to have to go forward an back between the data page and the web page &#8211; perhaps they could consider leaving the personal details frame open so that data from the web can be cut and pasted without relying on the merge option.</li>
<li>Yet again, the link forces me to the US version of Ancestry and not the UK version &#8211; I can find no way to change it.</li>
<li>Place names now have a lookup function which seems to be very US biased. There is supposed to be a UK version of the app released in Sept 2007 but unless that one understand UK place names, the new function is very limited.</li>
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<p>More later I suspect&#8230;..</p>
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